No Kitty, I Said *Think* Outside of the Box

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Does she have a UTI? Could me a medical problem. Hopefully, because those are the easiest to treat.
Sudden changes in behavior always mean something is wrong. If she was acclimated to the litter, I wouldn't guess that is the problem, but peeing ON something she knows you care about is a pretty clear cry for help.

Oh dear, sounds like trouble to me. I suggest you consult the vet. Hope everything turns out fine.

(Off-topic ... love the title of your post.)

Yeah, it's usually a medical condition, litter that isn't cleaned often enough (I think that might be the reason Edgar has peed on various things in the past), or some kind of change/stress in her life.
My kitty has never had a UTI, but I would assume that, like in humans, they're incredibly painful and she hasn't been sending any signals like she's in pain.

I should probably take her to the vet anyway. We haven't been in a few years (she's an indoor cat so there hasn't been much of a need) so she's probably could use a check up anyway. But I'd really hate to spend $80 for the vet to tell me to just change my litter brand.

Oh and Arbed, I don't clean the litter daily (except for back when her food wasn't agreeing with her - yuck!), but I have been keeping up pretty well on her box lately (I'll scoop it every couple of days and do a major cleaning once a week)...maybe I should let it get all full and gross, maybe then she'd use it.

In the end I decided to leave the toilet lid up today and see what happens. She's always been particular about poopin' on one end of the box and peeing at the other end, so maybe she's trying to separate them even more. If that's the case, the toilet thing should work.
I agree with the others, a cat that's used the litter box for years and suddenly starts peeing outside it is stressed either by something you did or didn't or by an infection or I guess old age could do it too. But peeing on the CDs sound more like she's trying to tell you something. Did you change anything in your routines? ... or smells - like the cleaning products in the last few months? Bleach for instance can make a cat want to pee on stuff.

Does she meet/see/smell foreign cats? A new cat neighbor can also stress a cat... even if they just smell each other. - or human visitors she doesn't like?
I'd put a small tray with some litter in the corner she uses now to break the habit.

Look at the insides of her legs and around her bum if she's lost hair there or has sores. We had some litter that, when peed on, turned caustic and burnt away the hairs on these rather sensitive parts of the body... I can't remember what the compound was now but the vet knew what it was... and I don't know if our cat was allergic or it really just was nasty stuff. Changing the litter sorted that problem out.

I try to use all natural cleaners for her box, nothing with harsh chemicals or scents; although, I did clean up her mess on the floor last night with a bleach-based cleaner and she went right on top of it immediately. That's good to keep in mind.

Oh, and she LOATHES other cats, children and groups of people. We learned that right away and have never had another pet or child in the house. When we have had a group of friends over, we usually isolate her so she doesn't stress out over it.

I will check her legs tonight too. I will probably break down and call the vet. It's so traumatic to take her, so that's why I try to only go as a last resort.

Thanks for the advice Drude!!

Edgar does the pee at one end poop at the other, too. I find that amusing for some reason. As far as I know, he's only pooped outside the box twice, and to be honest, I think it's just because his ass end was hanging outside the box, not that he did it on purpose. But the peeing pisses me off (ha) and I've never known exactly why he's done it. I constantly think I'm smelling cat pee on everything because I'm so paranoid.

I'm the same about the vet. One of these days I've got to break down and bring him in though, because he's getting up there in years and really should have a check-up (they recommend every six months after a certain age! I don't think so, Mrs. Vet).

She might be trying to tell you something so taking her to the vet would be a good first move. UTI's are actually very sneaky in cats. You won't necessarily know.

Here's an another idea, in addition to that - get another litter box. TWO litter boxes you say? Yes. It worked for my bff Brenda. I know it sounds crazy but I've seen it work wonders for people.
Ooh, that's a tough one. But it would be wise to spend the money on the vet now, rather than later when she has something much worse. My cat will pee in front of the litter box now and then- when she does I clean it with bleach to get the smell off the floor. If they keep smelling it there, they will keep peeing there.




I was going to suggest the same as Dora--a second litter box. I hope Pee Kitty is okay! It sounds like either an infection or extreme spite. But I would take her to the vet too.

We have "stink outside the box" issues,lol. I have found tootsie rolls in some very odd places. We have multiple boxes and rotate the changes so they almost always have a squeeky clean on somewhere.

We have second story shitters,lol. They go to rooms we don't frequent, pry the door open and turd on the sweater pile, Christmas decorations, or other equally disposable items. They must not like winter. We also have had the hanging "chad" on the side of the littler box where the ass end hangs out.

We had "pillow pisser" before and that was new kitty resentment. Our bigger problem is "Zagnut" eating by Tater and then big kisses for daddy Myke.

Our bigger problem is "Zagnut" eating by Tater and then big kisses for daddy Myke.

This is exactly why I hesitate about letting her at the toilet again. She may pee in it, but I never know when she's stuck her face down to take a drink. Then she gets all lovey and rubs her face against mine. Our silly little furry kids.

I'm agreeing with everyone who suggested a UTI --- that's what caused most of my cats' peeing problems over the years. And the cats who had UTIs never actually LOOKED like they were in pain, they were just spending huge amounts of time in the pee-ing position --- mostly inside the litter box, but lots of times OUTSIDE the litter box, like they had to pee so urgently that they didn't have the time to make it to the litterbox. And lots of the time, they'd actually pee outside the box --- but other times, they'd just be crouching there, looking like they were trying to go, but couldn't.
I think you should take your furry kid to the vets to rule out anything physical before you start trying to figure out anything else.

That's good to know. I'll give the vet's office a call this afternoon.
I agree with the others that you should have kitty checked out just in case. Though, I once had a cat that pissed on the chair right in front of my roommate and I and I paid $100 to find out he had behavioral problems. If it does turn out to be the latter and there is some sort of stressor, you might want to try the Feliway pheromones. Also, a 2nd box is always helpful.
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Oh, I'm so sorry you're all having this!!
I have no suggestions, since Sweetie is doing the same thing right now -- totally out of character. Ever since Mom died, and I moved some furniture, AND since the outside neighborhood cats have been "flirting" with him at night through the windows, he's been spraying all over the door to the bathroom where his VERY clean pan is, and on the end of the sofa I moved AND in Mom's old room, on the closet door. He's young and healthy and still uses his pan, mostly, but at night, when the critters outside come around, he HOWLS and sprays. I'm pretty sure he's stressed and just marking his territory, since he's such a wild cat. But ooooooooooooooooo it's not a good thing!!!
BTW -- he is very fussy about where in his pan he puts the solids and liquids. One end is solid and the other end is liquid, and if I don't take something out RIGHT AWAY and he has to use the pan he complains to me until I move it out. He's very fussy and wild, too.


i didn't read anyone else's comments, so if i'm repeating something...whatever.

i suggest getting more litter boxes. linda just got 2 kittens, and bought 3 litter boxes. she "heard" that you should always have one extra box, just in case.

(i'm also pissed. vana's cat pissed in my new ds bowling bag case. how? i dunno. grrrr.)

"terlet." haha. loves.

(i'm also pissed. vana's cat pissed in my new ds bowling bag case. how? i dunno. grrrr.)


That freaking sucks. That cat is nuts.

Another box, and for sure a vet check. Kitties can hide UT problems from their people for ages, except for the change in pee habits.

Maybe he just really loves da terlet.
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Our cat randomly started peeing on towels and clothes just recently and refuses to use the litter box. Took him to the vet who claimed it was a 'behavioural problem' and to not leave anything on the floor that he can pee on and he should stop... thanks Ms Vet - great help *cries*

Hopefully your vet will give you something a bit more useful to work with!
I am laughing....but I know what you're going through!! Our kitten has done the same thing...I finally figured out that she insists on having a spotless litterbox at all times, and she has to have scoopable litter.... I could handle her peeing in the corner in the bathroom....but not the carpet (we rent an apartment...) or on the bed or on any kind of throw rug!! She's been spanked so many times about the bathroom floor that anytime I've needed to take her in there for any innocent reason (like weighing her for worm medication) she tries to crawl over me because she thinks she's going to get beaten.... Thank goodness she's been doing better. Now I just have to convince her to make sure her skinny butt is over the litter and not the edge of the box when she poops.....

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